hammerlockthree 2,584 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-wrestl/recaps/011312aab.html my bad. I remembered this dual. Guess evans turned him and I remembered a fall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyclones 29 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 As much as I do not care for Evans antics, he has as much shot as anyone to win a NCAA title this year at 174. Yes, just as much as Kokesh. PSU guys(not me) were saying Brown had Evans number coming into NCAA's last year, and in the quarters Evans beat Brown! Plus Evans pinned Perry and should have been in the finals. Sure Evans is not flashy or will put up a lot of points, but he is tough and I would not count him out come NCAA's. Did you see what Kokesh did to Brown? I don't agree. I think Kokesh has separated himself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buckxell 145 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Fair point, I hadn't considered. When he was at Blair, he took down Camp., the man child from New Jersey and just dominated him. He had 2 time champ written all over him, but then he chose Iowa. Then when he made the huge weight cut, it seemed unreal that he would be able to be competitive, being so drained out and likely miserable, but he's managed to hold the weight and although ornery as a skunk during a prolonged heat, he doesn't appear to be negatively impacted (from a physical stand point). But he also doesn't appear to be improving much. He hasn't been able to separate himself from the other top guys in the weight class and you just sort of expect this year to finally be his year (year after year) and yet the individual accolades just have not been there. He's more known for his outburst and negative attitude than anything else. Perhaps Iowa just wasn't the right place for him to maximize his potential? Tough to say.True... It's very similar to Jordan Oliver. I thought him coming out of college he had all the tools along with great coaching that would help propel him to the top... But they couldn't get him to take it to that next level and get past our best guy Metcalf. Maybe a change of scenery will do it... I'm glad he keeps trying though... Most guys would've called it quits by now. Edited March 11, 2015 by Buckxell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkwdSteve 142 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Regarding the derail, you guys are right. That was all me, I mixed up my response with something mentioned somewhere else and I mistakenly interjected it in here. Wasnt intentional, I wont reply on it any further in this thread. Actually IAHawk brought up Gilman's name in this thread. It didn't come out of nowhere. He had a point to make and you provided a counterpoint of new information. I wasn't aware that Gilman left the podium early. Should we have some sympathy for him? Having to stoically stand next to a guy he hates while waiting for the second place medal. Had to be brutal. Edited March 11, 2015 by LkwdSteve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurricaneWrestling 1,123 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Actually IAHawk brought up Gilman's name in this thread. It didn't come out of nowhere. He had a point to make and you provided a counterpoint of new information. I wasn't aware that Gilman left the podium early. Should we have some sympathy for him? Having to stoically stand next to a guy he hates while waiting for the second place medal. Had to be brutal. I hadn't heard of that incident either, although I did recently notice that Andy Hamilton mentioned it on his Twitter feed. Andy Hamilton @Andy_Hamilton · Mar 8 Thomas Gilman on the medal stand flap: “Maybe a misunderstanding. I was up there and some of the guys were done taking pictures so I looked around and figured we were done, so I left and the crowd booed. I guess they didn’t think we were done.†Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawktalk3 59 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 It would have been great if Gilman won the Big Ten championship, and as soon all the photographers wanted to take pictures of ALL the 125 pounders, the seven other wrestlers would just jump off the podium and storm off like poor sports. But from reading some responses hear, it would be no big deal? You do realize that he didn't get his medal and then run off the podium right? He might not have been happy, but lets not act like he wasn't up there for photos.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 148 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Really, what a poor excuse. Does Gilman not have any situational awareness at all? He didn't realize that no other competitors had left the awards stand, nor realize that cameras were still rolling? I mean it isn't the end of the world, but I hope this kind of excuse from Gilman doesn't take away from what a douche move it was. Is he required to stick around, is anyone hurt from the action, of course not. But still, someone needs to help this kid with social skills, this is becoming a trend with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 LOL. Social skills. This is classic stuff right here. Now, we know he stayed and took pictures, but he didn't take ENOUGH pictures. Truly amazing stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,588 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Its mandatory to allow grandma a second photo in case the first one doesn't turn out. 1 Jaroslav Hasek reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 148 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Cmon Vak, so predictable. If this was the first issue then you are spot on, but he is one step short of putting a 'TOOL' tattoo on his forehead. Running into other teams huddles, crybaby shoving to Dance after losing, lets not even start on the Waters match. What words would you use to describe the kid? What words would a non-hawk fan use to describe the kid? Classic stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) EDIT: I'm sorry, I was derailing the thread. I'll cut it off here. Edited March 11, 2015 by VakAttack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sockobuw 49 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 I am guessing his award is sitting on the mantle right next to matt McDonough's from big tens his senior year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammen 336 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Jammen, I think Kokesh has 1 more loss against Evans. Freshman year at B1G tourney if I remember correctly Evans TF Kokesh something like 17-2. Not at 174. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 jammen likes to pretend the matches at 165 didn't happen. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLS62pa 55 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 I only read the first page of complaining and couldn't read much more since. But has anybody bothered to take note that Evans is 30-3, beating great wrestlers like Storley, etc? Might not light up the board, but neither did Chris Perry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Unless Evans can find a takedown or 3, he isn't going to do much at the NCAAs. I just don't see him able to John Lockhart his way to a title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Unless Evans can find a takedown or 3, he isn't going to do much at the NCAAs. I just don't see him able to John Lockhart his way to a title. He's the third ranked wrestler in the country. If he wrestles to seed, that's "doing much". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 I say that knowing that of course he will be winning the title. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 VakAttack, Why are you such a big fan of Mike Evans? Just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 He won't even AA, some hungry buck is going to take him down twice in the first period, and he won't have an answer. You heard it here (not first). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Vak likes his high scoring, non stop style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teach 175 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 we'll see in a little over a week. The more people that hate on Iowa, the more I want to start being a fan. Just win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 VakAttack, Why are you such a big fan of Mike Evans? Just curious. The Class. The Pinache. The Stache. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildTurkey44 321 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Mike Evans is the man. I love the guy. Haters gonna hate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 The funny thing is, I don't hate Iowa, Evans, or even Gilman. I am a wrestling fan first and right now watching them is as dull as it gets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
