cradlewiz 22 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 The Illinois kid did not come out there to wrestle, he came out for an mma style submission lock on Stiebers elbow an illegal move that the refs completely missed and could've led to an injury default win for Stieber if he couldn't continue. There is no room in wrestling for that garbage and I'm disgusted with Perry and the Illinois staff for encouraging that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,584 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 You're out of line. 1 levityrel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreezeWrestling 39 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 The ignorance of posters is sometimes beyond belief Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 The one time Ryan should have sat his wrestler... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,584 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 I know I couldn't believe it myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 3,994 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Umm....what? Everything was perfectly legal. 1 levityrel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ionel 2,453 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 The Illinois kid did not come out there to wrestle, he came out for an mma style submission lock on Stiebers elbow an illegal move that the refs completely missed and could've led to an injury default win for Stieber if he couldn't continue. There is no room in wrestling for that garbage and I'm disgusted with Perry and the Illinois staff for encouraging that but did you see the illegal "leg lock" Stieber put on his opponent's injured leg? 9_9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkwdSteve 142 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Nothing was done wrong in that match. 1 levityrel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuskyHero133 52 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Hunter just looked really hurt... not the Illinois kids fault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 564 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) The one time Ryan should have sat his wrestler... The injury is not going to get worse and won't heal until surgery. It's why he finally wrestled without taping it. Edited March 8, 2015 by stp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cradlewiz 22 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 I clearly saw the opening of that match differently than most of you all. I saw Illinois kid force an over hook and put pressure inward against the joint. It's well known that H. Stieber has injured elbows and is wrestling hurt and it would make sense for all his opponents to "test" that injury with two on ones and handfighting, But to focus your offensive attack on hurting your oppoenet is not the objective of the sport. Respect for those who replied and offered their opinion back. For those that felt the need to reply with a dbag response, you don't get cool points in life for being a themat.com internet jokester fan boy. I'm just here for some wrestling dialogue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stp 564 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 But to focus your offensive attack on hurting your oppoenet is not the objective of the sport. I remember a similar conversation about a slam few weeks ago at the national duals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbert 563 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Hunter must be embarassed that a poster would think he should get any special treatment. Maybe try watching college chess nationals. 2 levityrel and madcat11 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 593 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 This goes to the conversation a few threads back about scouting an opponents injured body part and going after it. I remember some saint saying that it doesn't happen. If you know someone is hurt or weak you exploit it, simple as that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 86 Report post Posted March 8, 2015 Not other peoples fault he is wrestling hurt. They don't have to avoid his elbows. 1 levityrel reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I clearly saw the opening of that match differently than most of you all. I saw Illinois kid force an over hook and put pressure inward against the joint. It's well known that H. Stieber has injured elbows and is wrestling hurt and it would make sense for all his opponents to "test" that injury with two on ones and handfighting, But to focus your offensive attack on hurting your oppoenet is not the objective of the sport. Respect for those who replied and offered their opinion back. For those that felt the need to reply with a dbag response, you don't get cool points in life for being a themat.com internet jokester fan boy. I'm just here for some wrestling dialogue I've watched the match several times and I can't find anything illegal with the MMA lock placed against Hunter, in the opening portion of the match. What exactly is the illegal aspect you're referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucksfan 67 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 A couple pretty big mistakes by Ryan during the finals, one of which was allowing Stieber to wrestle. Just idiotic. The Ill kid is going up against a formidable opponent (even injured), he isnt going to make it easier for Hunter to beat him. I dont fault that kid at all. It all lies on Ryan. The serious nature of Hunters injuries really reared their ugly faces Sat and Sun. Though he will do better than Languis would have, I think he may have 2, maybe 3 matches in him at NCAAs. Pains me to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fullnelson 129 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 Illinois kid clearly wrenched the elbow with no intent for any technique. I agree you don't avoid the wrestler's injury, but I've no respect to attacking the injury solely to inflict pain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 2,045 Report post Posted March 9, 2015 I didn't see a video on Flo- anything anywhere to see? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites