meloserio 8 Report post Posted March 22, 2015 Now that all the high school tournaments have concluded, I was trying to figure out who Mark Hall could potentially be joining next season as a six time state champ. I was able to come up with these names so far: Kirk Wallman, South Dakota Michael Sutton, Alabama Logan Storley, South Dakota Brandon Womack, Alabama Obviously not every state has a varsity eligibility rule for 6th-7th-8th graders and winning six time doesn't necessarily make you any better than a guy who won two three or four, but it is a pretty special accomplishment. Does anybody know if there are more than these four? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 Mark Hall also will have the distinction of wrestling in the HS state championship, 7 times. Very cool 1 stp reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
119 20 Report post Posted March 24, 2015 Jordan Shearer-North Dakota Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach Cox 1 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Wasn't Lincoln McIllravy a 6 timer from SD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiedsworld 14 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Mark Hall also will have the distinction of wrestling in the HS state championship, 7 times. Very cool Yea, if at first you don't succeed (2nd place in Kentucky)...just hold him back and try again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrog 43 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Yea, if at first you don't succeed (2nd place in Kentucky)...just hold him back and try again. Another internet "tough guy" behind a computer screen talking bad about a high schooler....get a life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCGrappler 44 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 What he said wasn't untrue and the comment didn't seem directed at the kid. 2 GranbyTroll and heelpick reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meloserio 8 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Stop, just stop. All I wanted to do was see who the six-time state champs were, not turn this into a referendum about holding kids back. Stop it. 1 leshismore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OCGrappler 44 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 You don't think it is relevant to a discussion of 6x state champs if someone wrestled 7 years of "high school"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiedsworld 14 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Another internet "tough guy" behind a computer screen talking bad about a high schooler....get a life! Not trying to be a tough guy behind a computer screen, just stating the facts. Mark Hall is an exceptional wrestler who has worked hard for everything he has accomplished. I actually like him as a wrestler for his style and can't wait to see him in college. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leshismore 215 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 You don't think it is relevant to a discussion of 6x state champs if someone wrestled 7 years of "high school"? NO. Get a life 1 BigBrog reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DuckFor2 210 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 isn't HS 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade, what am i missing here with 7 time state champs? anyone that young wrestling in PA states is taking a whoopin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cardsfsc 1 Report post Posted May 1, 2015 Wasn't Lincoln McIllravy a 6 timer from SD? McIllravy was a 5xer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossel3 77 Report post Posted May 1, 2015 4x, 5x, 6x.... not something one is likely to see coming out of CA. I don't think 7th and 8th graders are eligible in CA, and given the state's size and 1 class system, it is extremely rare to even have a 4x'er - only one in its history so far. The number of 3x'ers isn't very large, maybe 20 plus or minus. Small states or states with multiple divisions are far more likely to have kids winning 4 or more titles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leshismore 215 Report post Posted May 1, 2015 Yea, if at first you don't succeed (2nd place in Kentucky)...just hold him back and try again. Hey, Wiedsworld..... how do you spell "insecure"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuillermoBilletas 149 Report post Posted May 1, 2015 Hey, Wiedsworld..... how do you spell "insecure"? I spell it M-S-R-E-D-S-H-I-R-T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HokieHWT 592 Report post Posted May 1, 2015 isn't HS 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade, what am i missing here with 7 time state champs? anyone that young wrestling in PA states is taking a whoopin. I know it's Preps, but Dave Hoffman was a 5x state champ in PA.... 1 Cletus_Tucker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted May 2, 2015 What he said wasn't untrue and the comment didn't seem directed at the kid. Is that what happened, he placed 2nd and then they held him back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted May 2, 2015 I know it's Preps, but Dave Hoffman was a 5x state champ in PA.... I never knew that. Would that make him the only 5 X PA state champ? Going to add that to my trivia list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted May 2, 2015 4x, 5x, 6x.... not something one is likely to see coming out of CA. I don't think 7th and 8th graders are eligible in CA, and given the state's size and 1 class system, it is extremely rare to even have a 4x'er - only one in its history so far. The number of 3x'ers isn't very large, maybe 20 plus or minus. Small states or states with multiple divisions are far more likely to have kids winning 4 or more titles. Rosie Palms, No one is winning CA as an 8th grader. Cade and Pico may have had a shot at it, I really don't know. They both blasted the field state and nationally as 9th graders. one has to believe they would have been right there a year earlier, depending on who was in their weight class. Cade may have been a little too small for the weight. I can't imagine a 7 year HS career, It must have been the coolest thing, being a junior high kid, crossing over to the HS part of campus, and being a state champ twice and runner up once, before ever entering HS Any idea how Nickerson's placing went? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted May 3, 2015 Winning as a 7th or 8th grader is cool but may be a sign of a weak weight, state, or classification. Most boys just aren't physically mature enough to go against upper classmen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossel3 77 Report post Posted May 4, 2015 Winning as a 7th or 8th grader is cool but may be a sign of a weak weight, state, or classification. Most boys just aren't physically mature enough to go against upper classmen. Basically true. In CA, even for a 9th grader to win a state championship is exceedingly rare. I think if one excludes 103#er's, no one had ever won state in CA as a 9th grader until Louis Bland won 152# in 2005. Sidenote - as rare as it is, both Valencia bros won CA state as 9th graders Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leshismore 215 Report post Posted May 4, 2015 I spell it M-S-R-E-D-S-H-I-R-T You mean a 100% legal practice of holding your child back? Why does this bother you if it is totally legal? Why does anyone care if a kid graduated HS at 17 or 19? People who actually care about this--I would say spell out their insecure need to boost their ego's by putting down a kid and his family because they did what they felt was best for both of them. I am sure there are MANY kids who graduated HS at 17 who thought--:"Gee... maybe I was not ready... maybe I should have stayed back a year." But people obsessed with "How things should be" will never be able to comprehend such simple concepts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted May 5, 2015 I don't get it. They don;'t mind their 14 year old frosh wrestling an 18 year old senior but they are pissed they have to wrestle a 15 year old frosh. Pico caught so much heat for winning a state championship as a 15 year old. What exactly is wrong with that? He won all the age groups and on track to graduate by 18. On the senior national ladder ranked 3rd and already a world champion and world runner up in age divisions (cadet and junior). If anything the kid is at a disadvantage if age is the end all, be all. I th9ink it's just a built in excuse. "He's older for his grade", never mind he's younger than the upper classmen he's trouncing. 1 leshismore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 2,056 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Hs sports should be just that. If you are not yet in hs, wait your turn. It's not about pure competition, you are representing your school. I see no difference between a ms kid on a hs team and a college kid on a hs team. Plenty of true and even rs freshmen are of legal age. 1 KTG119 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
