Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) I was rather surprised he didn't AA. Highly ranked recruit that has shown flashes of brilliance but seemed to wear down as the season went on; a common theme at Iowa. Have to wonder if things would of been different if he stayed at home and wrestled at Illinois. Perry probably would of had him placing as high as 5th by now. Edited March 25, 2015 by Flying-Tiger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pm-01 25 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 This is original. It's going to be another long off season, I see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 384 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 gosh was it 6th place your boys finished in this year? hmm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serial_Thriller 77 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 C'mon Tiger! Put a little effort into creating a decent trolling thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
judaspriest 32 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Yes, quite disappointed that Brooks didn't place. Tough weight and he is still pretty young, hoping we'll hear a lot more from him in the next two years. Guessing his placement results based on hypothetically signing up with Illinois is palm reading territory Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawktalk3 59 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Obvious troll is obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 116 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 He lost to the national champion in a hard fought match and then lost in the round of 12 to the 4th place finisher. Yes, it was underachieving but he had tough match ups against higher ranked kids. it was his first full year on the mat and he had a better first ncaa tournament than McIntosh and Gulibon (#1 and #3 recruits in their class). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Wow, where was all this outrage and defense when the Gulibon thread came out, LOL. It's almost as if some have a double standard; ........and the thing is, with Brooks it's much closer to being a legitimate discussion then with Gulibon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSabich 9 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 I like watching Brooks wrestle. Good motor, almost always offensive minded for a big guy. His problem is technique as he frequently loses defensive position. Perhaps a coaching issue but he is young so he has time to improve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tofurky 616 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 He's a great kid in a program that best fit the style he developed in high school. He had two close matches with tough dudes and things just didn't go his way this season at the tournament, though he did make the blood round. I don't think there's more to it than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,015 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Wow, where was all this outrage and defense when the Gulibon thread came out, LOL. It's almost as if some have a double standard; ........and the thing is, with Brooks it's much closer to being a legitimate discussion then with Gulibon. In Gulibon's first NCAA tournament he lost to two guys who didn't make the Round of 12 while going 1-2. Brooks lost to the champion and the 4th place finisher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawktalk3 59 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Wow, where was all this outrage and defense when the Gulibon thread came out, LOL. It's almost as if some have a double standard; ........and the thing is, with Brooks it's much closer to being a legitimate discussion then with Gulibon. Or it's because Gulibon was the #3 recruit, where Brooks was the #20 recruit. Fact is Jimmy had much bigger potential to live up to than Brooks did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 116 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 They actually had pretty comparable tournaments this year. Gulibon lost to the 2nd and 3rd place finishers. Really, the only difference is where they lost those matches in the bracket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickyTheEar 15 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Brooks needs to find his shot again. He had a phenomenal low single in high school he would hit off the whistle, but I never saw it once at nationals. He is outstanding upper body wrestler and everyone knows that. However, when he got into matches at nationals where he needed a go to shot, I never saw one. Particularly VS Dean when he lost 3-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 116 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Completely agree. I think his offense was a lot better early in the season. Maybe the loss the Boyd made him hold back a little and not be as aggressive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 148 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 If this silly argument about 'first' NCAAs is going to be used maybe it is worth pointing out that Brooks didn't go his first year being stuck on the bench behind a 2 and BBQ wrestler? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawktalk3 59 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 If this silly argument about 'first' NCAAs is going to be used maybe it is worth pointing out that Brooks didn't go his first year being stuck on the bench behind a 2 and BBQ wrestler? A 2 BBQ guy that was also a two time All-American Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VakAttack 4,015 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 If this silly argument about 'first' NCAAs is going to be used maybe it is worth pointing out that Brooks didn't go his first year being stuck on the bench behind a 2 and BBQ wrestler? Sure, that's fair. So we can agree, Brooks lost in the Round of 12, losing his two matches to the 1st place and 4th place finishers. Gulibon took 5th losing to the 2nd and 3rd place finishers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mpchillin 116 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Also, to be factual Lofthouse was 1-2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Class 148 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Fair enough the losses are certainly similar. In Gulibon's defense he did beat a #10 and #2 while Brooks beat a #8 so the wins would certainly favor Jimmy. That said I think potential and skill are relatively similar between the 2. Not sure how much higher expectations are, Sammy was certainly a beast in high school and #20 overall. I get it that Gulibon was #2 or #3 but not a huge gap in those rankings, not to mention the 133 class has been a total meat grinder the last couple years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 86 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 First off the Gulibon thread was a troll thread in response to an Evans troll thread. Now we have this lame ass troll thread. Not like the current 184 for Illinois Reyes was all world. Also losing to #1 and #3 seeds, kind of a tough draw there. Not to mention the biggest issue being that Brooks hurt his leg vs Dean at the duals. His movement and lower body power was affected and it was really noticeable in the match vs ASU where he stumbled around and even winced in pain causing the ref to ask if he needed an injury timeout. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlw028 106 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 I don't think Brooks has anything to apologize for. Was right there with Dean, and caught a tough draw on the back end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Brooks had a great season and a good tournament. double elimination brackets ARE NOT perfect in determining placements. i think the OP makes a lot of unsupported assumptions. very little separated the top 16 or even 20 guys in this weight. lots of really solid wrestlers didnt make the podium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkeye73 3 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 In all fairnes to Brooks he also had a late season injury reason he did not wrestle against Missouri in the National Duals. Know not to make excues but if not 100% feel he did a ok job for first nationals. 1 IA_Hawk reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildTurkey44 321 Report post Posted March 25, 2015 Brooks has nothing to be upset about. The OP is a disgusting troll trying to create Iowa hate. That won't happen via a Sam Brooks thread. Brooks is a stud. Leave him be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
