Cauliflower 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Stieber seems to turn good wrestlers at will with this tilt. Can someone explain the mechanics of why this works? Or is Logan just incredibly strong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,003 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Logan is incredibly strong but the reason why that move works is because of technique more than strength. One observation I've made is he has about half a dozen "go-to" variations each on his arm bar series and half/claw series, and he chains them all together seamlessly. So his opponents have to simultaneously defend bars, a half, and the claw tilts--very hard to do. With a dozen ways to turn you to either side and a relentless attitude of chaining the moves together, he's going to turn you one way or another the vast majority of the time. 2 fadzaev2 and skikayaker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SEmixer 1 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Pressure forward, traps wrist, sucks it in, deep claw, drives towards head with claw and hops over the trapped wrist, idk thats what it seems like to me. Obviously theres more to it but watching it as it happens thats the only explanation. Can you find it w/o paying Flo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,175 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Long story short, once he straitens out the arm by manipulating the wrist there is a ton of pressure from the humeral head on the opponent's rotator cuff. Amazing that he can attack the shoulder so effectively by grabbing the wrist (he also uses his knee to push on the elbow) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,181 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 VIdeo clip? I'd like to be able to break it down if anyone can post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,175 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Once he gets your arm strait there is no fighting turning to that side at all.. https://youtu.be/VRWl8K4slRM?t=44s Edited March 27, 2015 by GoNotQuietly 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribe 1,835 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Incredibly strong. Born that way and always will be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnklePicker 646 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.gohiocasts.com/video/662562-Logan-Stieber-claw-to-tilt 2 Coach_J and fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paboom 204 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Brute strong with long arms and broad shoulders. Perfect physique for it backed by exceptional technique that he mastered by 9th grade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,181 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Ankle and GoNot, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 545 Report post Posted March 26, 2015 Logan is incredibly strong but the reason why that move works is because of technique more than strength. One observation I've made is he has about half a dozen "go-to" variations each on his arm bar series and half/claw series, and he chains them all together seamlessly. So his opponents have to simultaneously defend bars, a half, and the claw tilts--very hard to do. With a dozen ways to turn you to either side and a relentless attitude of chaining the moves together, he's going to turn you one way or another the vast majority of the time. Occasionally, he throws a leg in too.....he's unbelievable on top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gutfirst 220 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 same basics as a gut wrench Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
