oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Is it true that Logan Stieber took a middle school "red shirt"? That is, is it true that Logan was held back a year in middle school in order to get an advantage over his opponents? I've heard this a few times, but have not been able to confirm if it was true or not. Any inside info Ohio wrestling fans? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,355 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Don't know when he was held back, but he was definitely was held back. 19 for much of his senior year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 124 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 That's not uncommon for boys with early birthdays....did it with my son, but in kindergarten....I taught 40 years, and talked this over with a lot of educators before we did it...he wouldn't have been 18 until after he graduated (birthday Aug. 20) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Lemon Pie, I noticed that Stieber is quite a bit older than the average senior when looking at his bio. I was very curious as to why, then I heard of the middle school "redshirt". Someone told me it was so he could get an advantage over his opponents, however I'm not sure if this is true or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Fadzaev2, Logan Stieber was born January 24, 1991. Is that considered to be an early birthday? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildTurkey44 321 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Don't feed the troll 6 silver-medal, GranbyTroll, Yellow_Medal and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,355 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 That's not uncommon for boys with early birthdays....did it with my son, but in kindergarten....I taught 40 years, and talked this over with a lot of educators before we did it...he wouldn't have been 18 until after he graduated (birthday Aug. 20) Logan didn't have an early birthday. January 24th. This guy won a state title at 19 years old Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrh 4 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Logan won three junior high state wrestling titles in Ohio in 6th, 7th, and 8th grade in 2004-06. Four High School state titles in 2007-10. He redshirted in 2011, then won 4 NCAA titles 2012-15. No break in that chain, so if he was held back, it would have been prior to entering 6th grade in 2004. 1 BobDole reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 WildTurkey44, No one has trolled so far on this thread. We're simply trying to figure out what happened with Stieber as a middle schooler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRfan1 139 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 It is kinda crazy that he's older than Dake, who was done two years ago... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 124 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Logan didn't have an early birthday. January 24th. This guy won a state title at 19 years old When he started his senior year in September, he was 18....turned 19 in January. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,281 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I am pretty sure he wouldn't have been eligible to wrestle the second semester of his senior year if he was in Michigan. I had a buddy who was held back and he was able to wrestle the County tournament just before Christmas but that was the end of his eligibility. I don't know if Michigan has changed that as it is now 20+ years ago....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 836 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I am pretty sure he wouldn't have been eligible to wrestle the second semester of his senior year if he was in Michigan. I had a buddy who was held back and he was able to wrestle the County tournament just before Christmas but that was the end of his eligibility. I don't know if Michigan has changed that as it is now 20+ years ago....... From the MHSAA website To participate in MHSAA tournament sponsored sports a student must be under 19 years of age except that a student who turns 19 on or after Sept. 1 of a current school year is eligible for the balance of that school year. Stieber would have been fine. 1 fadzaev2 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 218 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 If you turn 19 before January you cannot wrestle a hs season Dake never had a redshirt year just take that into consideration when you say Logan is older and Dake was done 2 years ago Logan wrestled as a true freshman at 125 and broke his hand early in the season and was granted I be a medical redshirt for that season you have freshman beating seniors so I wouldn't think his age is much of an advantage at the college level Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VQLSWAIN 2 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 That's not uncommon for boys with early birthdays....did it with my son, but in kindergarten....I taught 40 years, and talked this over with a lot of educators before we did it...he wouldn't have been 18 until after he graduated (birthday Aug. 20) I was 17 for my entire senior year, turned 18 at the end of July. If I could turn back time and do it differently I would have liked to have been started later and at least been 18 for my entire senior year. If I shared my junior prom picture on here, you would laugh, I barely look like a teenager. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 836 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 It is kinda crazy that he's older than Dake, who was done two years ago... He's barely a month older than Dake. Kids are held back in elementary for a multitude of reasons, unless you know the exact reason it's hard to be hard on the kid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 218 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) If you turn 19 before January you cannot wrestle a hs season, Dake never had a redshirt year just take that into consideration when you say Logan is older and Dake was done 2 years ago, Logan wrestled as a true freshman at 125 and broke his hand early in the season and was granted I believe a medical redshirt for that season you have freshman beating seniors so I wouldn't think his age is much of an advantage at the college level Edited March 27, 2015 by NYWRESTLER94 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 1,647 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Can't wait for the thread after Tanner Hall wins his fourth NCAA title. 1 JasonBryant reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloate 61 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 In Oklahoma if a student is held back prior to 9th grade, the student does not loose any high school ellgibility. There is a loss of eligibility if the student makes 19 years before a certain date. Being "held back" is done for many reasons and sports eligibility is certainly one of those. There used to be a stigma attached when it was called flunking. No stigma equals easier to make the decision. My youngest son was held back after 1st grade on the recommendation of his school's principal. He thought that giving my son an additional year to mature would be academically beneficial. It turned out to be a positive move. Being able to explain that he was being held back to benefit him rather than that he flunked 1st grade made the process positive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Mrh, Interesting info. Logan was 19 for most of his senior year in HS. From what I remember, that's pretty rare. Do you have any information on his elementary school redshirt? 1 JBluegill133 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 If my information is correct, Dake was winning the ncaa title as a true freshman less than a month after turning 19. At the same age, Stieber was looking for his 4th state title. Funny how this all worked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsuper 46 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder if Logan Stieber is the oldest non military/mission trip wrestler to win a ncaa title. In the ncaa semis, Logan wrestled 18 year old Kevin Jack from NC state. Logan is 24! Is that the biggest gap in age between two competitors at the ncaas in history? Any wrestling historians around here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 124 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I agree....Stieber would have been fine! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fadzaev2 124 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 I get it now.....somebody on this forum dislikes the 2015 Hodge Award Winner!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldrules 32 Report post Posted March 27, 2015 Who cares? Winning one NCAA title is hard enough much less 4. He deserves his accolades, time to move on to freestyle and greco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
