Who had a better career Dake or Stieber?

[LordNelson 552]

Considering they are he same age, and the fact that Dake split matches with Reese Humphrey his freshman year, and the fact that Reese and Logan go at it now, we could have had our answer had Dake not kept gaining weight.  Logan and Dake would be a very close match.   Probably be whoever got a turn. Dake has great defense, Logan great forward offense.  Both are mental studs of the highest order.  

Of the 2, there is absolutely no chance that Logan would turn Dake but I can't say the same for vice versa.

[LordNelson 552]

That he wasn't murdered by Mormon radicals for skipping his mission

OMG.

[Fishhook 142]

Logan won junior high states three times (6th,7th,8th).

I actually thought so, but didn't want to be accused of wrong and then have my whole argument, which is pointless anyway, blow up in my face.

 

Anyway Lakewood you and I are Buckeyes:  there is no way I trade Logan's 3 Junior Highs, 4 High Schools and one high school team championship, 4 Big Tens and one Big Ten team championship (tie with Iowa), and 4 NCAA titles and one first ever team championship. Also second ever point scorer in tournament. The whole thing is freaking unreal to me. And I am so happy to watch Logan focus completely on Freestyle rules and training techniques.  

[Fishhook 142]

Of the 2, there is absolutely no chance that Logan would turn Dake but I can't say the same for vice versa.

The stats beg to differ. Logan turned and pinned way more opponents and teched more opponents in fewer opportunities than Dake.  Other than that, arguing about it is dumb. Both guys have other things to worry about, and both are in the 99.9 percentile of most successful college wrestlers ever. 

[LordNelson 552]

The stats beg to differ. Logan turned and pinned way more opponents and teched more opponents in fewer opportunities than Dake.  Other than that, arguing about it is dumb. Both guys have other things to worry about, and both are in the 99.9 percentile of most successful college wrestlers ever. 

Stats never favor Dake.

Like all the Taylor apologists.......

Dake sucked at wrestling,

excelled at winning.

 

Taylor turned everyone too, just not Dake.

[littlethadd 22]

 

Dake sucked at wrestling,

excelled at winning.

 

 

You're 100% right, he HAD to have sucked at wrestling to win even 1 national title, let alone 4. Come on, give me a break.

[LordNelson 552]

You're 100% right, he HAD to have sucked at wrestling to win even 1 national title, let alone 4. Come on, give me a break.

You're not having trouble with the sarcasm are you?

[Cletus_Tucker 890]

No injuries?  I'd call that luck in this sport

 

 

 

 

 

.I've heard he did sustain injuries, he just chose to wrestle despite them.    I'm not sure luck even exists, but if it does, it certainly didn't spare Cael injuries. 

[hammerlockthree 2,584]

So you're just gonna make something up?

[scribe 1,824]

I sucked at wrestling.

I excelled at losing.

I was injured and didn't wrestle with the injury, so I can't use that as my excuse for losing so much.

[headshuck 2,588]

Cael doesn't receive bad luck, because to every other wrestler, HE is bad luck.

[heelpick 116]

Cael was the bad draw

[AKHUNTER 316]

For me it's Dake. Don't get me wrong I love Steiber and his success. But when Dake went to 165 to take on Taylor, and then backed it up, is what seals the deal for me. A guy that goes up in weight to take on, and defeat the reigning Hodge winner, can wrestle for my team ANY day. Of course so could Steiber AND Taylor. Gives me a pretty good start of my team :)

[oldsuper 46]

The stats beg to differ. Logan turned and pinned way more opponents and teched more opponents in fewer opportunities than Dake. Other than that, arguing about it is dumb. Both guys have other things to worry about, and both are in the 99.9 percentile of most successful college wrestlers ever.

 

How many back points has Stieber given up in his career? What about Dake? I don't recall Dake giving up any nearfall points, but I could be wrong.

 

I think it's relevant to mention that Stieber was hesitant to go under true freshman Zain Retherford after their first match. Remember Zain was nearly 4 1/2 years younger than Stieber when he gave him trouble on the mat. Zain was considered to be a "small" 141 that year.

 

Maybe Stieber isn't as physically strong as many seem to believe.

Edited April 9, 2015 by oldsuper

[dhun 2]

How did Cael avoid going on a Mormon Mission?

[Phil S 13]

It's obvious to me that since Dake is taller, he would get the nod. With Stieber being old for his age as well as short for his height, I think the Lemonator would have to vote the same way.

[paboom 204]

What a wrestler did as a true freshman and did it while being a normal aged freshman is all I need to know in this debate.

[Bloate 61]

How did Cael avoid going on a Mormon Mission?

“Exceptional talent evokes exceptions to the rule,” said Gregory Prince, a Mormon historian and an active member of the church. “It isn’t fair to the 60,000 young men who heed the call to serve and stay out of the limelight, while the athletes bypass formal missions and gain the accolades. It’s a double standard, but for the church it’s a no-brainer.”

[oldrules 32]

This thread is a train wreck

[dhun 2]

[Perry 1,423]

Logan Stieber. Dake got lucky in Caldwell getting hurt in 2011. He would have only been a 3 timer if he hadn't.

[littlethadd 22]

Logan Stieber. Dake got lucky in Caldwell getting hurt in 2011. He would have only been a 3 timer if he hadn't.

Are you talking THIS Caldwell?

 

http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/250051-Wrestling-in-Madison-Square-Garden/video/670397-165-lbs-match-Kyle-Dake-Cornell-vs-Tyler-Caldwell-Oklahoma-State

[KTG119 820]

Are you talking THIS Caldwell?

 

http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/250051-Wrestling-in-Madison-Square-Garden/video/670397-165-lbs-match-Kyle-Dake-Cornell-vs-Tyler-Caldwell-Oklahoma-State

think he means that guy who wrestled for NC St.

Edited April 10, 2015 by KTG119

[Perry 1,423]

No, this Caldwell: 

[lu_alum 920]

How did Cael avoid going on a Mormon Mission?

Cael was and is bad Mormon. Won't be one of the 144,000.