LongShot 13 Report post Posted May 5, 2015 What are the incentives for guys like Burroughs, Taylor, Dake, etc to enter the US Open at this point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 I would ask, what's the incentive to have a us open at all? The "real" nationals is the trials, and both athletes and fans seem to be lukewarm over attending the open. I can't imagine it makes a lot of money, so why is it needed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 967 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Top 6 qualify for World Team Trials with only one wildcard spot available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 1,890 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 i dont mind the current set up. separates the WTT into two stages. 2 tournies are better than one. ideally the US Open would be a true open and one of the "Majors" of the fictional international pro wrestling circuit that only exists in my mind but that's not a realistic option. not yet anyway. if there was no NCAAs and folkstyle and we had 64 wrestlers in each weight class like the Russians that would be cool too, but that 1 tournament doesn't settle the team for the Russians though, does it? Don't the coaches still use other international tournaments as wrestle offs in case of upsets? so yeah, i like the current set up. Burroughs and Dlagnev have earned the right to sit out the Open stage. both of them have a plenty busy competition schedule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,606 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Only top 5 from the open qualifies for WTT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heelpick 116 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 We have to have some sort of qualifier, if a marquee name sits out, it gives a lesser known a shot at winning some hardware. No harm no foul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 538 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 To answer the OP (my quote button still doesn't work), guess there is zero incentive for guys like Burroughs, or Dake to enter the Open. JB is already penciled into the WTT finals, and everyone else has to get through the WTT bracket just to face him for a best of three. And if they do beat JB, they then have to out place JB in an ensuing international tournament. Possible, but highly unlikely. That would be an amazing feat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Lately the Russian champion gets the nod the vast majority of the time. They do have wrestle offs or additional tournaments when the coaches think it's necessary. Sometimes a proven champion will get an exemptions from nationals. Pretty rare to have someone who actually gets beat at nationals get the nod (Gatsalov and Vlasov recently ) or to give a chance to someone who misses nationals without permission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Pretty sure that international tournament thing no longer applies for Americans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 538 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Thanks, didn't know that. So if KD, DT, AH, et al, do happen to upset JB in the best of three, they're in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 I think so.... But they seem to change criteria every year so I could be wrong. Anyone know for sure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 967 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 To answer the OP (my quote button still doesn't work), guess there is zero incentive for guys like Burroughs, or Dake to enter the Open. JB is already penciled into the WTT finals, and everyone else has to get through the WTT bracket just to face him for a best of three. And if they do beat JB, they then have to out place JB in an ensuing international tournament. Possible, but highly unlikely. That would be an amazing feat. Burroughs has a pass to the WTT finals due to being a medalist last year. Dake won Northeast Regional and thus is qualified for the WTT. Neither need to go to the US Open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 538 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Yeah, but the question is, what if someone does beat JB in the best of three? Are they then the USA rep, or do they then have to place higher than JB in an international tournament to dethrone the Champ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry_Fish 313 Report post Posted May 6, 2015 Yeah, but the question is, what if someone does beat JB in the best of three? Are they then the USA rep, or do they then have to place higher than JB in an international tournament to dethrone the Champ? Yes, they are the rep if they beat JB (or TD) in the best-of-3. No longer have to out place them in an international tourney. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites