wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 Kilgore should be booted from the tournament. On his back getting stuck and throws punches at Varner's head. They are separated and Kilgore drops what appeared to be a couple F bombs at Varner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 I was so confused. Not sure what was going on there to get Kilgore so heated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 I think he was pissed that Varner was going for the pin even after he had secured the tech. How dare Jake Varner wrestle through the end of the match! 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WildTurkey44 321 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 I think Varner tried to kiss him. Set Kilgore off Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 I think Varner tried to kiss him. Set Kilgore off He sounds insecure 1 leshismore reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I think Varner tried to kiss him. Set Kilgore off Probably wished it was Caldwell. Edited June 14, 2015 by Flying-Tiger 2 wrestlingphish and hammerlockthree reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 344 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) That was pure domination basically that pissed Kilgore off. Nothing wrong with going for the fall after the 4 point throw. It appears Varner is wrestling with that fire many of us were accusing him of not having. Totally BS from Kilgore trying to start a fight. Edited June 14, 2015 by PRyan2012 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,086 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 Probably wished it was Caldwell. I bet there is some sexual tension back stage! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 Looks like there will be no punishment to Kilgore. He is on the mat versus Michalak. Can you imagine the outrage if that was Tony Ramos? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supyall46 7 Report post Posted June 14, 2015 Hate how wrestlers can pull this crap without any repercussions. Winning, competing hard, it's all important - but when it comes down to it, good sportsmanship comes before everything. These guys are our world level athletes and should be held to higher expectations, not lower ones. 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sockobuw 49 Report post Posted June 15, 2015 i was pretty critical of kilgore on the call of the match and i tweeted him an apology. the view from the other side showed varner was using a fish hook, instead of being on the chin. that's what upset kilgore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cardsfsc 1 Report post Posted June 15, 2015 i was pretty critical of kilgore on the call of the match and i tweeted him an apology. the view from the other side showed varner was using a fish hook, instead of being on the chin. that's what upset kilgore. I'm surprised more of you didn't see Kilgore make a motion to his mouth after they got up to get their hands raised. I thought it was pretty bush league too until I saw him motion to his mouth to the ref and then drop the "F" bombs. Immediately I knew Varner had to have done something pretty cheap to get a reaction like that. I also think that's why Varner didn't react after taking those shots. Those of you that wanted Kilgore punished by USA Wrestling...do you feel the same about them going after Varner, or is that "just wrestling"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaBearSLIM 48 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I'm surprised more of you didn't see Kilgore make a motion to his mouth after they got up to get their hands raised. I thought it was pretty bush league too until I saw him motion to his mouth to the ref and then drop the "F" bombs. Immediately I knew Varner had to have done something pretty cheap to get a reaction like that. I also think that's why Varner didn't react after taking those shots. Those of you that wanted Kilgore punished by USA Wrestling...do you feel the same about them going after Varner, or is that "just wrestling"? 1 cardsfsc reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coach_J 2,083 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 Thankful for the fuller story and the missed fishhook. You want to fishhook, you got a couple well-earned shots coming. 1 cardsfsc reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoNotQuietly 1,014 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 As an MMA fan, I would love to see these two settle it the old fashioned way, since neither is going to Vegas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,258 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 Sounds like varner deserved it, glad to get the full story. At least kyle snyder gave him what he deserved in the finals. 1 CaliWrestler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 If Varner fish-hooked him that makes it a little understandable why Kilgore punched him but still doesn't explain why Kilgore was allowed to throw punches and not be called for flagrant misconduct or a similar penalty. 1 CaliWrestler reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Spartan 198 Report post Posted June 18, 2015 The fish hook -> http://www.flowrestling.org/coverage/252179-2015-World-Team-Trials/video/772574-The-Fish-Hook#.VYL73UYnhWU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 18, 2015 Fishhook is clear as day. Still unsure how you are allowed to throw multiple punches and be allowed to continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimpeltf 1,643 Report post Posted June 18, 2015 Fishhook is clear as day. Still unsure how you are allowed to throw multiple punches and be allowed to continue. With that music playing, who could get upset? 1 wrestlingphish reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perry 1,258 Report post Posted June 19, 2015 International refs never get too concerned about punches being thrown. Most I've ever seen from it is a point which was irrelevant at this point. I wonder if the hook was intentional. I can't remember varner ever being a dirty wrestler, so maybe it was an honest mistake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Spartan 198 Report post Posted June 19, 2015 International refs never get too concerned about punches being thrown. Most I've ever seen from it is a point which was irrelevant at this point. I wonder if the hook was intentional. I can't remember varner ever being a dirty wrestler, so maybe it was an honest mistake? I think they are getting concerned now. It was not punches, but some hard slaps and a headbutt (and it was from close, not that hard) disqualified both Kinchegashvili (one of the favorites to win the 57kg in the European Games) and Andreyeu in the semifinals match, two days ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,699 Report post Posted June 19, 2015 That was 100 percent intentional. Embarrassing for nlwc and far beneath an Olympic champion. It would be great to see Kilgore get him back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingphish 702 Report post Posted June 19, 2015 That was 100 percent intentional. Embarrassing for nlwc and far beneath an Olympic champion. It would be great to see Kilgore get him back. Kilgore isn't gonna be getting anyone back on a wrestling mat. Those punches when Varner wasn't looking are the best he'll get. He has been getting rag-dolled by the top guys at 213. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 1,905 Report post Posted June 19, 2015 you'd think Varner would apologize if it wasn't intentional. doesn't justify Kilgore's punches but that's a pretty bogus move by Varner. disappointing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites