armspin 257 Report post Posted June 20, 2015 Just watched it... Made me sad. I know Ruth has to go through the mini tournament and I know Herbert is really good... But still. No one as good as Ruth supposedly is should be getting picked up over and over again with that sweep shot, and then cranked over on top if that. Mma training or not, Ruth shouldn't be looking this bad. Wasn't long ago he was competing with and even beating great wrestlers. Now... Also did the refs seriously give Ruth a point for getting doubled out of bounds in match 1? Even Ed couldn't believe it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlw028 106 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 Just watched it... Made me sad. I know Ruth has to go through the mini tournament and I know Herbert is really good... But still. No one as good as Ruth supposedly is should be getting picked up over and over again with that sweep shot, and then cranked over on top if that. Mma training or not, Ruth shouldn't be looking this bad. Wasn't long ago he was competing with and even beating great wrestlers. Now... Also did the refs seriously give Ruth a point for getting doubled out of bounds in match 1? Even Ed couldn't believe it. To be fair, he wrestled very well in the mini tourny. Just got outclassed in the finals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 531 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 When Jake is serious, he is real serious. I think you may be selling him short here. He did take a world silver and got hosed out of gold at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 I don't think Herbert got hosed but it was a close match under crappy rules. Herbert is really good, no shame in losing to him, it's just the sloppiness that gets me. Same thing in the mini tournament Ruth gave up about 15 points on a chest lock. He's better than that, or at least could be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongShot 13 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Ruth can get sloppy and still get away with winning against 99% of the guys he wrestles. Currently Herbert seems to be in that 1% that has Ruth's number. Not easy to do but that tells you how good Herbert is. I think Ruth has more talent but leaving Nittany Lion hasn't seemed to have improved his wrestling yet. I still say Ruth is our best guy when he's on (look what he did to Salas). Real question is, could Cael still be the guy if he wanted to? Edited June 22, 2015 by LongShot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 328 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 Real question is, could Cael still be the guy if he wanted to? I don't think so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwh27 30 Report post Posted June 22, 2015 I don't think so Not at 86kg, too big of a cut. I bet he'd be about even with Varner and Snyder in practice, but hard to conclude he'd beat them in a match setting given how much more of a toll it would take to train full time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
